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Posted on Feb 09, 2015
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ascdga

Joined KS: May 24, 2013

And by shaftoid (courtesy Mark Crossfield), I mean someone who believes shafts make a big difference in their performance - that the shaft is the "engine" of the club?

I used to be a shaftoid. Now, not so much.

Posted on Feb 09, 2015
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etakmit

Joined KS: Jul 10, 2013

ascdga on Feb 09, 2015
And by shaftoid (courtesy Mark Crossfield), I mean someone who believes shafts make a big difference in their performance - that the shaft is the "engine" of the club?

I used to be a shaftoid. Now, not so much.

I kind of sit in the middle of the road there.

I really do believe the shaft can have a LARGE influence on the flight of the golf ball. However, you need to really be in the WRONG shaft for it to matter a ton.

For me, shafts are all about feel. I find one that feels good and where the ball still goes forward and I'm happy. Barring that, does it have pretty colors on it? Because that matters too!

Posted on Feb 09, 2015
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bogeyman

Joined KS: Jun 03, 2013

I believe this is a personal preference, because in golf, whatever helps build your confidence, you take it. As Bobby Jones said, competitive golf is played on a 5.5 inch course, the space between your ears.

If you're a shaftoid, that probably helps you in your mind, and that matters a lot, even though that may not be the reality.

Full disclosure: I'm not shaftoid. I'm more a "regular-comes-in-the-box" shaft kind of guy.

Posted on Feb 09, 2015
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etakmit

Joined KS: Jul 10, 2013

One thing I've found is that the more I get into building clubs and learning about proper fitting and the like, the more I care about the various components!

Before I got interested in that stuff it was more of the same as bogeyman - it came off the shelf that way so thats how im playing it.

Posted on Feb 10, 2015
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ascdga

Joined KS: May 24, 2013

Here's the thing....launch monitor data tends to indicate that shaft influence is nearly negligible. You may see numbers move a bit here and there but they are statistically insignificant. The only truly significant shaft spec is weight and length. And only if we are talking about a large change in weight and length. Players tend to adapt to their equipment. Will you feel the difference between and X tipped 2 inches and an R with no tipping? Absolutely. But..... given a few range sessions with one or the other you will notice (as long as your at least a little bit consistent) that they eventually perform pretty much the same.

The biggest influence on what a ball does is the strike - face to path, angle of attack, impact location on the face. Since COR is limited on driver heads as well as volume and shaft length is as well, there's not a whole lot manufacturers can do to make any meaningful gains. The new trend of low-forward CG for lower spin drives results in a less forgiving club overall. So you have to borrow from Peter to pay Paul. What IS good is players at least have a choice. If you are a good ball-striker and want to maximize distance, go ahead and get the lowest spinning driver you can find.

Posted on Feb 16, 2015
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etakmit

Joined KS: Jul 10, 2013

ascdga on Feb 10, 2015
Here's the thing....launch monitor data tends to indicate that shaft influence is nearly negligible. You may see numbers move a bit here and there but they are statistically insignificant. The only truly significant shaft spec is weight and length. And only if we are talking about a large change in weight and length. Players tend to adapt to their equipment. Will you feel the difference between and X tipped 2 inches and an R with no tipping? Absolutely. But..... given a few range sessions with one or the other you will notice (as long as your at least a little bit consistent) that they eventually perform pretty much the same.

The biggest influence on what a ball does is the strike - face to path, angle of attack, impact location on the face. Since COR is limited on driver heads as well as volume and shaft length is as well, there's not a whole lot manufacturers can do to make any meaningful gains. The new trend of low-forward CG for lower spin drives results in a less forgiving club overall. So you have to borrow from Peter to pay Paul. What IS good is players at least have a choice. If you are a good ball-striker and want to maximize distance, go ahead and get the lowest spinning driver you can find.

Like I said - for me shafts are about feel. And having proper flex. Anything beyond that and you're right. The 400 dollar shaft can easily perform worse than the one I got off of ebay for 35 dollars.

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